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Passion and the church

Who said this?

“I would guarantee an institional church full of people radically devoted to
Jesus will always be more impactful than a new expression where the Jesus factor
is dispassionate.”

That is so true. Ultimately the method by which we do church or do evangelism, is really not the point. The point is our relationship to God, and our relationship to people. This is what Jesus said, love me, love others. True love to others will be expressed by sharing our faith and lives with them.

Maybe this is why people who have obvious faults and problems have made great Pastors and leaders and evangelists. We can all see what they are doing wrong, but for whatever reason, God has used them in remarkable ways. I am not talking about those churches which pinch other churches members by putting on a better show. I am talking about those radical individuals who seem to upset a lot of people, yet somehow end up leading a stack of people to Christ.

Close to my home, was my dad. He upset a lot of people in the BU and surrounds. He spoke his mind and wrote his mind too! I would not necesarily endorse his methods. But I admire his passion and drive. The memory of all those people at his funeral who were Christians because of him, will drive me and stay with me forever.

Ultimatelty I don’t care what you do to reach people for Christ, just reach them!
Thats why I am getting a little tired of this whole emergent/established church thing.
Maybe Hirsch is right, “This means that efforts to fundamentally reorient the church around its mission fail because the foundational system, in this case the Christendom mode or understanding of church, cancels out what the ‘software’ is requiring. Leadership must go deeper and develop the assumptions and configurations on which a more missional expression of ecclesia can be built.” link
As a pastor who has transitioned a church to one which I truly believe is getting the line, “the church is not about us, we are the church, the church is about the unsaved”, Whats needed across all expressions of Christianity is more passion for the lost, This will cause us to rethink structures, cultures and philisophies. But this will be contextualised, and I personally dont subscribe to the methedologies Hirsch subscribes, but you probably know that. Having said that, I think, ‘more power to ya!” especially if people are starting to follow Christ.

Either way, I do reckon its time to adopt a more co-operative approach, work together somehow. Ultimately any new work needs to become self funding, and if it cant, then it has a problem. But I do personally want to find creative ways to work together.

Who said that? I reckon you can find that out for yourself.

Divorce

There is a good reason why God says He hates divorce.
Not because He hates the people who go through it, but in fact the opposite is true. He loves them and wants the best for them.
I cannot see much difference between those who are Christian and those who are not in regard to divorce. Speaking purely from an ancedotal perspective, I have had as many friends who are not Christians divorce, as I have Christian friends.

Some of the non Church goers are much nicer to each other in the process as well. Maybe its because there is less guilt involved, and it is easier to rationalise it.

One illustration I always give couples about to marry is the fire in the room one. Pretty simple, but some truth in it.

If you have two people in a room and a fire starts, what will they do? Run out of the doors.
What would they do if there where no doors? Work like crazy together to put the fire out.

In many marriages conflict, misunderstanding and miscommunication are the fires. We have to work hard together to put them out. Even if people do work like crazy, sometimes they still do bust up. I have also seen situations where circumstances are so bad, and so much wrong has been committed, yet the couple work through it, and stay together and even find a way to prosper.

I thank God for my marriage every day. Its not perfect, but you know that already. But we have stuck together and grown together for over 14 years now. Thats amazing. We are both so so different in how we look, react, behave, in fact we are so different people.
Yet we have both been committed to each other, even when it was difficult.

If you are going through a divorce, God help you, and God forgive any Christians who criticise you unduly, attack you or dont help. My prayer is that I will be able to help people through this process, because I have never seen one yet that has not had horrible pain occur to both parties. It is not something I reckon ever leaves you. You have been as intimate with a person as you can be, and now, in many cases, you are not even their friend.

John 15 Abundant life

Further on from my thoughts yesterday, the passage I am speaking from on Sunday.

“10 When you obey my commandments, you remain in my love, just as I obey my Father’s commandments and remain in his love. 11 I have told you these things so that you will be filled with my joy. Yes, your joy will overflow! “

From obedience comes abundant life, joy, in fact our joy will overflow.
If we dont obey, well read the verses before.

Funny, in the midst of a really depressing week (back at work, friends having serious personal issues) God has encouraged me, that if I obey, there will be fullness of joy.
Thank God there is a way.

Please respond

Do you reckon that God waits for us to take a step of faith before He blesses us?
After a great prayer and discussion time this morning with some close friends, we believe that God may very well wait for us to obey, move, take a step of faith, before He showers the full extent of His blessing on our ministry, and maybe even on our lives.
I am not talking about the prosperity doctrine, or self seeking religion. Nor am I saying that unless you have faith, you wont be healed.

But I do believe that God wants us to obey Him, and may very well withold blessings from our lives until we step out in faith. What do you think?